Register Now! Login Register. Please login or register. Home Help Search Login Register. Author Topic: Booting of an m. It was a nice compromise for the couple of compatibility features i wanted, a nice, understated look and a decent price for the features.
I could probably go for sata ssd but i found better deals for m. My question is, can i boot from the m. Do i have to look for a specific kind of ssd? I have used a lot of SSDs over the years, but it will be my first time i go to the m.
I do know that there are speed differences between m. Can i boot off a pcie m. So, in the current conditions, namely, i 'm restricted by choice to not boot to UEFI, if i'm ever going to use a faster ssd, i have to limit myself to which better deal i find, sata or m.
What PCIe add in cards can boot a NVMe M.2 SSD?
Quote from: laur3ooo on August, One last clarification. In bios legacy mode, can i boot off a sata based m. I think that was suggested in a reply, but it is not clear. On a related note, is uefi required for use, by the OS and not bios, of a pcie m. Not as a boot disk Because i'm thinking about keeping the old sata ssd as a backup and a bootloader device.
It has been my experience that you can easily set where to install, where to have the swap, where to put the bootloader etc. Windows can't really, not on installation. A SATA based m. It shouldn't have any issue in legacy bios compatibility mode. You'll definitely need the NVMe drive so Windows 10 is recommended, but the driver can loaded on older operating systems.
Personally I would use uefi mode regardless of the hardware configuration unless you know you have a compatibility issue.Such an interface has some inherent inefficiencies when applied to SSD devices, which behave much more like DRAM than like spinning media. At a high level, the basic advantages of NVMe over AHCI relate to its ability to exploit parallelism in host hardware and software, manifested by differences in depth of command queues, interrupts processing, the number of uncacheable register accesses etc.
If yes, which modules have to be inserted and how has it to be done? These were the main questions, when I started this thread in April Although we do not yet know everything, we made in December big progress in finding answers to the related questions. That is why I have completely updated the below part of this start post. Both NVMe modules have been successfully tested. Credits go a to the EDK2 Team resp. After having done that, the number of the Volume will be shown within the box named "Vol.
Index box. Click onto the "Insert" tab on the on-top MMTool menu bar. Now you can click onto the "Insert" button, which is on the upper right hand side below the "Browse" button see above picture. After having done that, the insertion of the desired NVMe module should be done automaticly and correctly by the MMTool. In this case you should try to get the "small" variant of the NVMe module in "compressed" form inserted.
RAR archive file if it should be bigger sized than 6 MB, post the download link. Then we will try to help you. Now you have stored your modded BIOS within the related folder. After having double-clicked onto the BIOS file, which you want to get modified, you will see a picture similar to one of these: Expand the shown image resp. After having expanded the "BIOS region" by hitting onto the right-direction arrow in front of it, you will see a picture like one of these: Due to the complicated and mainboard specific internal structure of the "BIOS region", it may be rather time consuming to find the DXE Volume, where all the EFI modules are located and where an additional EFI module like the NVMe one has to be inserted.
The result is a picture like this one: As you can see, you are now within the "Compressed section" of a "DXE driver" which one doesn't matter. After having done that, you hopefully will see a picture like this: Note: If there should not be enough space within the DXE Volume for the insertion of the additional module, you will get the message "File size exceeds the Volume size".If you are using two independent hard drives that are not connected by boot manager then the UEFI boot hard drive will always boot first before the legacy hard drive unless the bios allows you to change the boot priority.
If the bios setting is legacy disabled then only UEFI devices will boot. Both will boot up. It works fine in legacy mode. There are other known methods to do the above but this method is very simple. I have secure boot turned off. Anyone know what the problem is?
I installed Grub on the second drive as well, leaving the main drive untouched. I have tried various methods to make 'boot-repair' work, but it always fails. I am asking for help here because I think I can get everything to work if I can only install Elementary without enabling Legacy Mode. If when the computer is new and it cannot be switched to legacy boot mode then I will be returning 4 new machines we just got.
They are Z SFF units that I must be able to reimage with my own windows 7 pro system image using a 16 bit boot utility and if this cannot be accomplished then the computers are of no use to me.
UEFI is not supposed to be mandated. I am sorry, but to get your issue more exposure I would suggest posting it in the commercial forums since this is a commercial product. After many unsuccessful tries, i finally managed to install windows 7 by changing my boot sequence to Legacy Boot. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the sounds you are describing sound like there may have been a hard disk failure.
The sound you described the clicking sound, is most likely the drive trying to do a forward seek and being unable to locate track 0.
This is uncommon with a machine so new but not impossilble. My suggestion is to take the unit to your closest authorized repair facility and ask them to remove the drive and plug it into an existing computer to see if they can recover your data easily. Otherwise it is most likely that the data has been lost. If it is on the other hand a controller failure inside the computer then the chances are good you will be able to recover the data.
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Level Message 1 of HP Recommended. Tags 7. Tags: Archived. New member. Message 2 of Users, who have any problems or questions regarding the guide, may post them directly sibliss until Nyctophilia is back. Changes to the configs can be made out of your favorite OS via text-editor. Disadvantages: - Slightly longer boot times This can be decreased by changing values inside the config.
Feedback is welcome and needed! How does it work? It's easily replaceable and fastforward to install. You also don't have to worry about data-loss when updating it. A good reason to install it to a SATA-device might be, that you don't have any USB-ports left or if you are using a notebook I don't consider sticking out USB-drives as a permanent and convenient solution. But check first if you have a cardreader, especially when you own a notebook. In BDU, you still have to enable the listing of internal, fixed disks first.
Keep in mind that this installer will wipe the selected disk completely, so backup your data beforehand. If you find another way to install it without endangering the whole disk, just tell me. I will add it as an alternative option to my guide. Installation: 1. Open up BDU. Boot Disk Utility 2a.
Softly click on "Format Disk" and wait for the magic. If that's not the case, BDU failed. Access your Cloverstick via Explorer.
How To Fix PCIe NVMe SSD Boot And Driver Problems
I can't tell you if it will work like described. You can check if the driver is loaded properly by opening the Clover-EFI-Shell and just typing "drivers".Why is that a thing to learn?
Well, consider that it's an entirely new storage technology. The issue is not so much about the tiny M. This PRO is faster than both of those, much faster. Especially for writes. Current the fastest consumer SSD in the world, and my initial tests sure seem to confirm this, partially because it's paired with a SuperServer that allows it to shine, with 4 lanes of PCIe 3.
This is a very exciting day for me, the arrival of the final piece of my home lab storage strategy. See also:. The YouTube video 's commenter Dan L sums up the 's intended use-case nicely:. Intel is considered enterprise drive whereas Samsung Pro is designed for client users.
The reason why I didn't buy Intel is because it mainly focus on higher queue depths such as data center, web server, and file server. In addition, it draws maximum power of 22watts and boot time was incredibly slow, though Intel released the new firmware update but boot time was still slower than Samsung SM and even Samsung Pro.
Whatever NVMe drive you buy, you'll still likely need to meet all of the following requirements, if you plan to also use it as a boot device:. Sounds a little like a hassle. The below video will demonstrate that it's really not, at least with this system, using Windows 10 that has built-in NVMe support.
The steps needed for other motherboard vendor BIOS configuration may be quite different. What's the benefit of going through a bit of extra effort to be able to boot from NVMe? The convenience of one C: drive in Windows combined with an increased speed and reduced latency versus traditional 2.
Source: Intel. That's it, you now have an incredibly fast boot time, and an amazing performer. Just a normal Windows 10 PC, only much faster. Everything below is a peek at some early attempts to create a baseline of expected performance, before I head over to VMware ESXi 6.
Thanks to YouTube commenter Dan L yet again! What do you know, performance increased! Not a big change, but noticable, as you look over this image carefully.
The above procedure has now been tweaked accordingly, and the video has been annotated. Well that was unexpected! Turns out the 's built in thermal protection was likely the reason the speeds dropped toward the end of these very first ATTO Disk Benchmark runs I did yesterday.
Silly me, after recording the installation of the M.The struggle for astronomical storage spaces has slowed down. This pushed storage technology in a different direction; namely speed. These drives take the mechanics out of the equation and as a result are exponentially faster. Right now connecting SATA cable connecting drives to motherboards has became an issue. These drives plug directly in to a motherboard and the speed is off the charts as high up as read speeds of 3.
However, with new technology comes new problems to troubleshoot. If your drive fails to show up altogether, then our first step is to verify if it is even connected. This will open the Disk Management window.
Count the number of listed Disks. Does it match the number of installed storage devices? If so, that means this is an issue with the incorrect driver. If it does not, that means the drive was not installed properly.
If your drive is detected same test as abovebut is not showing in File Explorer, go to Disk Management and find your disk. If you have tried installing this drive but either are unable to install the official drivers instead use Windows defaultsor are not getting the advertised speeds, then you might have a driver problem.
These drives are the latest technology on offer. This should both pick up your driver and enable full speed. In the available tabs, you will see five tabs. Restart your computer when prompted. You will reboot into Safe Mode after a little waiting.
Now you should be able to install your drivers and tools just fine. In case you want to use your new, super fast drive to run your Operating System and are starting from scratch i.
You will need the following. It is assumed you have access to another computer on which you can create the above mentioned items. If you are running this operation from a branded manufacturer as opposed to assembling one yourselfthen you can probably request the manufacturer for a copy of your Operating System most manufacturers let you download a copy.
The is the number of your USB, if you choose any other number, you will be wiping out the wrong drive. The drive should now be formatted and marked as active and Fat Now you will need to copy the contents of the Microsoft Windows install dvd to the USB with a regular copy paste from windows explorer.
Once this is done you will need to get a copy of the EFI boot manager firmware file from a computer that has Windows 64 bit installed on a UEFI system. Simply formatting in FAT32 and copying the files will not copy the necessary files and prevent the drive from becoming bootable.
Also, UEFI is new technology.Legacy BIOS seems to be fading into irrelevancy. However, when it comes to booting your computer, it remains an option. You should consider choosing the system that has what you want in it, not what is popular.
Legacy has stood the test of time as the number one boot system for over 25 years.
UEFI vs Legacy BIOS Booting: What’s the Difference?
Like all greats though, there is always a predecessor coming into power offering. This could be happening because people are getting fed up with coding that comes with legacy, which turns into an extremely messy, outdated, and unorganized processes. However not all Legacy hardware and software should be tossed away immediately. You should always consider making the most out of what you have. Functionality, adaptability, and speed are three major aspects to consider when deciding which system, UEFI or legacy, is the optimal program.
Comparing ROMs to Drivers is one way you can determine which system is more functional. The option ROMs that legacy systems run will only work if they are compatible with the hardware that is running with it.
If you upgrade your hardware, you have to update the option ROMs to make sure every aspect of the booting process is compatible. At some level this caused difficulties in interoperability. The drivers have virtually no space limitations and are compatible with upgraded forms of hardware.
Drivers are written separately and can be uploaded using a flash drive. UEFI uses C-language. This form of coding is much more simplistic than assembler, which is the type of language that legacy systems require. Since legacy systems have been around for such a long time, their codes can be long and confusing, which make them harder to work with. Legacy programs do not allow for system updates without hardware updates. This causes many people to create and write numerous lines of new, confusing, and undocumented changes in code that allow users to bypass the compatibility process necessary.
C-language on the other hand is much simpler and user friendly. This gives users the ability to write in new code making their program adapt and function how the user wants it to. This means it is easier for users to add and subtract what they desire from the code. Here is an example. The program has been running for over 25 years and is still kicking.DUET running on ASRock x58 Extreme + NVMe Boot SSD
UEFI is for the more engaged user who enjoys taking full control over how their system runs. This is the program of the future and it will become the norm as soon as there is no need for Legacy systems. Until then you have the power to choose. It is just a matter of time before UEFI becomes the standard booting system for personal computers. Linux users run predominantly Legacy, while Microsoft users run a mixture of both.